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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

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  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  Unsure, I understand your request for ideas, you are asking for reality after having suffered from the JW fantasy world. You are searching for the guidelines for correct beliefs and that is where the problem lies because having "a religious belief" is a cultural thing, it is not a truthful or factual thing.

  I agree with Anders above; what ifs only beg more what ifs. What you do need to do is to distinguish between "belief" and "knowledge".

  Instead I suggest you try only "believing" things which have factual or testable evidence for their existence. If a belief is not testable (like "God is love") then don't waste your time on it.

  By this criterion "salvation" becomes only a slogan of a religious doctrine, it cannot be tested, it's propaganda, it's a distraction from the world of reality.

  Perhaps you are afraid to be yourself? Try it and learn what it is to be a mature human with free choices-- you are not a pawn in a religious lottery, you have every right to navigate your own course through life. You need not be beholden to invisible spirits which are unknowable-- try shaking off those superstitions my friend and get a grip on the real world-- learn critical thinking!.
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  Half banana

  Unsure, a few hours ago you said,

  "That's the problem, without these fairy tales, I believe life is meaningless."

  Who said life should have meaning? It is up to you, to give your life meaning. Trying to live someone else's dreams is madness.

  Of course we all go through this questioning when we have been hoodwinked by religion but we have a right to determine our own path; have a family, build a house, help mankind, end the attitudes which lead to war, create a better world free of oppressive belief systems or whatever you choose to do. . . but life only has meaning to us if we are the makers of our own life.
  
  
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  Half banana

  There is an irony in old Charlie Russell's choice of the name Watchtower. The metaphor of a literal watchtower was used from the start to illustrate the idea that the look-out at the top gets a panoramic view of the land to foresee events before they arrived, Russell and later "The org" being the only ones to have divine insight.

  It never worked for them, they never got anything right, it was all complete rubbish; a fantasy.

  A parable of being a JW is like someone born in a cave who never leaves it. An even better illustration for JWs is Plato's allegory of the cave. There are chained prisoners (JWs) who never see the daylight except dimly but are forced to look all the time at the wall at the end of the cave. Some distance behind them is a fire and between the fire and the backs of the prisoners, puppeteers come with shapes casting a shadow play on the end wall of what is purported to be the real world.

  The prisoners had no reference to know or to deny reality because the shadows were their only experience of the world.

  So my point Unsure, is that the fuzzy images given you from Bible stories are not the basis for making any real life decisions.

  Who requires salvation? Only those who have had the concept of sin and the serpent drilled into their brain!

  Why does the "Bible based" JW religion act like a cult? Because early Christianity was also a dumb cult, feeding off the gullible in the same way.

  You ask "Is it enough to believe in a God" as if to get some hope. If you wish you can believe in anything and everything and if hope is all you want then that's the way forward for you. However if you want to be honest and live without false expectations then it's better to recognise that we all die and therefore we should live knowing that our life is very precious and should not to be wasted on supernatural fairy tales.
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  Neutered New World

  by Labate in

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  if, as jesus said, there is no marriage in the afterlife, will our sex drive be removed?.

  sex without marriage is fornication, which is a no-no.. if i were young and healthy, being surrounded by young, healthy women, having the normal male libido would hardly be paradise..

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  Half banana

  Wake, that is a stonking piece of WT drivel you have unearthed.

  Can you imagine the allure of joining an organisation which holds out for the new member the prospect of losing your gender identity?

  It is beyond the pale. It is insane.
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  Time for a new type/anti-type, G.B? 2033 is the new 1975!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  a well known scripture says, "however, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 peter 3:8) .

  using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:.

  matthew 16:21 says, ".....the christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while john 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "on the first day of the week, mary magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb.

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  Surely even JWs know by now it's just not going to happen ...... ever?
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  Oct 2017 WT again shunning instructions

  by Daniel1555 in

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  Half banana

  The way it evolves in the JW cult is that an idea starts as a comment in a WT then becomes part of the routine. I can imagine that shunning could become a badge of honour in the congregation. "I see you are successfully shunning three family members and two friends Brother Zealous, keep up the good work."

  "Theocratic warfare" i.e. lying for the Watchtower, was mentioned years ago as a rare and extreme measure under war-time conditions, as the cult goes into decline they will probably make it compulsory...............
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  I asked an elder how is the witnessing going in Bangladesh?

  by Chook in

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  i said god is not giving them much of a chance to hear his message, i think it's one to 3 million ratio.

  i said if wt paid prime internet space they could beam their propaganda to everyone instantly, then you could show the world mr lett live , and explain how he is to rule the world from heaven.

  then i asked that god seems to like the anglo nations , i should of asked how many chinese and indian are on the gb..

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  The reason is simple: God is a white Anglo Saxon male
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  June 29, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Branch Relocation - Newsletter (UK)

  by wifibandit in

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  june 29, 2017 to all congregations re: branch relocation - newsletter.

  britain branch relocation - newsletter ed.5 summer 2017. .

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  Half banana

  or even cult delusion..........
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  June 29, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Branch Relocation - Newsletter (UK)

  by wifibandit in

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  june 29, 2017 to all congregations re: branch relocation - newsletter.

  britain branch relocation - newsletter ed.5 summer 2017. .

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  Half banana

  Or possibly Stan, a rehabilitation centre for victims of lifelong cult delsion........
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  July Broadcast - Bible Teach book and Keep Yourselves In Gods Love book

  by pale.emperor in

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  i didn't manage to last the whole broadcast.

  it was so unbelievably boring that i only managed halfway before i switched it off.

  in this broadcast anthony morris iii (who i affectionately call "the don") stresses to us the importance of studying - not one - but two of their publications in order to understand the bible.

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  Half banana

  Just a note PE; when the writer said "all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial...", he was not referring to the Bible. We know this because it was written about three hundred years before the Bible was compiled.
  

  From the contemporary usage of Paul's Greek, "scripture" is understood to refer to that category of writings which were intended to be of an uplifting nature, as opposed to say legal documents, history or religious obligations. This means that Paul would have had in mind works such as the most popular Christian texts of the first two centuries which was The Shepherd of Hermas. It could not refer to The Bible!